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Post by sonofwolfe on Feb 8, 2009 21:10:30 GMT -5
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Feb 9, 2009 5:42:07 GMT -5
Geez...I wonder what right-wing Nazi put that up! I'd never heard the talk, but I'd actually agree with what Rahm Emanuel is saying here. I think young people miss out on a lot without a period of service.
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Post by sonofwolfe on Feb 9, 2009 10:36:06 GMT -5
Patriotism-the last refuge of the tyrant. Anything compulsory by a centralized government is slavery. I might remind you of the statement, "taxation without representation is tyranny". Time for the children to give up childish things, as Obama stated. Time to drop the illusion that THEY represent US. Obama will usher in absolute control. The difference between denial and acceptance is a small step, but no real change can occur without it. And yes, we are living in a society of lowered human values and the 18-25 year olds are in many cases morally deficient. But martialing their alleigence by forces that are morally bankrupt is no different from what Stalin, Hitler and Mao and all governments have done throughout history. We shall see how Obama fixes things. We shall know him by the fruits of his labors. This head has been spawned by the same hydra. He controls nothing, as did the Bush empire. Global control, by force. Deal with it. patriotbeliever.blogspot.com/2007/08/clergy-response-team.html
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Post by shewolfe on Feb 9, 2009 12:20:37 GMT -5
Well, I don't believe in war, so I will have to side with Phil on this one...forcing young people to serve in an army is teaching them that war is has to be a reality of life.
Maybe one day I will move to Tibet.
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Feb 9, 2009 13:42:41 GMT -5
Well, I don't believe in war, so I will have to side with Phil on this one...forcing young people to serve in an army is teaching them that war is has to be a reality of life. Maybe one day I will move to Tibet. Keep in mind that what's being debated is not compulsory military service, but some form of public service, be it in the community or something like the peace corp. I'm not against it, because as much as I hated the Navy at the time, there are experiences I would never have had without it. It was a different time. Having said that, any form of compulsory service would never get through Congress. It's not something that can be done through an executive order. Now, there are certain things Obama is doing in a populist/grassroots manner that certainly is something Hitler did. His campaign is still alive for the purpose of organizing community groups for feedback, but also for getting people educated for the purposes of talking to others to gain support for things he proposes. His former campaign manager, David Plouffe, is a genious for organizing over the Internet and is probably the brains behind the win. Now, just because an evil man used a way of organizing people and getting them involved, doesn't mean the method can't also be used for good. Yeah, I know the very evil Ron Paul is continuing to do it as well, but there's nothing intrinsically evil about getting people personally involved. No one's going to put on brown shirts and march in the streets.
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Post by sonofwolfe on Feb 9, 2009 13:52:56 GMT -5
You are correct, no brown shirts. This time they are wearing black. The us is now buying its own t bills with fiat currency because no one else will buy them. we are witnessing the final collapse of our economy. the 2 party system is a sham and has been for a long time. when you are being fed in the camps, its over. nearly 1million jobs lost in January alone, and still the money is NOT repairing anything. remember you were warned. there are no longer any excuses. Hope is a weakness when applied to government. they have and always will disappoint us.
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Feb 9, 2009 17:41:46 GMT -5
This is because no one has the courage to do what really needs to be done.
If you want something good accomplished, all you need to do is appoint me as dictator, and then we'll roll our sleeves up.
If you don't think I'd make a good dictator, keep in mind that the first thing I'd do would be to abolish the Fed.
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Post by sonofwolfe on Feb 9, 2009 17:58:22 GMT -5
whoever the military serves is who is running things. Is it them, the banks, or the constitution? That is the only real question. all else is illusion.
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Feb 9, 2009 18:17:10 GMT -5
The military serves us, in theory. Keep in mind that the whole reason for the 2nd Amendment is that it was a compromise between Jefferson and Jackson. As it was originally written, it included the words, "There shall be no standing Army except in time of war." Adams had that sentence deleted before ratification.
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Post by Shadout Mapes on Feb 9, 2009 23:02:46 GMT -5
Well recent strategic initiatives and war-making have certainly led me to believe that the old slogan "No draft, no war!" has been made utterly obsolete! For the time being anyway... ><Tomasina Chicawolverina!
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Post by cdh on Feb 11, 2009 10:28:03 GMT -5
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Post by sonofwolfe on Feb 11, 2009 12:12:42 GMT -5
By the way, alex jones, the flamboyant alarmist, has been on this page , I am not exaggerating, for years. Alot of people like war. The arms industry, governments, banks. Its good for them, it has never been good for the unwashed masses. William Blake from one of his poems, "the hapless soldiers blood runs down palace walls." The tragedy is that all we ever had to say as a united people is NO collectively. So now blood WILL flow and this time it will be ours.
P.S.- One other thing. I heard a stat yesterday that before this is all over, the Fed will own between 35-50% of the banks in this country. I don't know about you, but that sounds alot like National Socialism to me. they are now talking about Medicare benefits being severely curtailed for anyone over 55 years of age. Which means, you lose your job, you lose your insurance, you get ill, seriously ill, you die. The raping continues...
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Feb 11, 2009 16:59:28 GMT -5
Well, I don't have to worry about Medicare, since the Postal Service still covers my insurance. We all know the Postal Service is financially sound, right?
Like I say, I'm just hoping there's enough left to get me safely off the planet before the final collapse...but then...I'd like a healthy planet to return to.
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Post by Chicawolverina on Feb 11, 2009 19:10:43 GMT -5
Rico, that ship hasn't arrived yet, and it can't get there from here! ~*(G'HugS!)*~ PS: And don't forget to vote in our TRH Poll at the top thingy there! ><Tomasina Chicawolverina!
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Post by cdh on Feb 12, 2009 13:51:53 GMT -5
What is 100% warning level?
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Post by Chicawolverina on Feb 12, 2009 13:59:25 GMT -5
Means, anymore abuse out'a me, and I'm gonna get BANNED! At least for a while! Experimentally that is, but that's what it would look like. S'Kay though... Don't worry! PS: Don't forget to vote in the Poll too! ><Tomasina Chicawolverina!
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Feb 12, 2009 15:52:55 GMT -5
I voted!
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