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Post by redwolfe on Jul 27, 2008 21:13:29 GMT -5
I just found this website on the net - www.keithrowland.com/our old friend, art bell's old webmaster - keith rowland - God! i hate that man - he was so much a part of the concerted effort to dismantle me - and this man calls himself a christian - sheesh with internet laws being changed now, if he did today what he did ten years ago he would face prosecution
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Jul 27, 2008 23:58:17 GMT -5
He was never a very nice guy, and if you recall, a few months ago we discussed the distinct possibility that he could be the anti-Filipino poster. In retrospect, it's certainly the kind of thing he'd be capable of. Of course, it can never be proven. There was even a brief period when he tried to take down "Fantastic Forum" because he felt threatened by it.
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Post by redwolfe on Jul 28, 2008 1:26:59 GMT -5
he accused me of being the anti-fillipino poster on art's website back then
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Post by shewolfe on Jul 28, 2008 1:46:40 GMT -5
It's diabolical....who ever stole Art's email and spoofed it to do the anti philipino posts, did it at such a perfect time, so that it actually appeared to have come from you....being that the university library is where this guy was, one half our away from your home in San Diego....that was no coincidence. It was orchestrated so Art would think it had to have come from you...it was masterful illusion, and so cunning....they knew you would be blamed, they (who ever they are) used the situation in an effort to either cause more confusion, or more hatred for you, and maybe the catalyst to Art thinking you were guilty.
Well, it had to be you, because how close it was done, so close to your house.
Who ever did it, is probably laughing still to this day...
Or....
An even more diabolical thing might be that it was black ops, to break up the union and friendship permanently with Art Bell, maybe in an effort to take you both down...maybe killing two birds with one stone.
I do tend to think the latter...it's always what I have suspected.
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Post by redwolfe on Jul 28, 2008 1:51:03 GMT -5
there were so many things that came down at that time, all around the same time - it was all very bizzare
i can remember many shouting phone calls with keith rowland too - i hung up on him several times - then he email bombed me too
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Post by shewolfe on Jul 28, 2008 1:53:54 GMT -5
Maybe there was a secret mail bomber, spoofing email addresses to make it look like it came from who ever they want it to, and the target and the victim would turn on each other....very pathological....
Just like Robert thought it was Keith email bombing him, Keith might have been spoofed, just like the guy who spoofed Art's email address. I am just throwing this out there for consideration.
Not that I am a big fan of Keiths...I am not, at all.
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Post by redwolfe on Jul 28, 2008 4:32:44 GMT -5
i'm 99% sure the emails bombings came from keith - the email contained a large video file of art bell's appearance on larry king live, and it was sent 100s of times - it contained the cute little message "Here is the video clip you requested." and the return email address was keith rowland.
i have almost 100% recall of all the events that happened at that time
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Jul 28, 2008 4:44:21 GMT -5
Keith Rowland admitted to having done the e-mail bombs. I think even Art told me that. Also, Art told me it was Keith who was posting some rather hateful messages on Fantastic Forum, and those messages were actually ANTI Art Bell. It was when we were all trying to get him to come back on the air the first time because Mike Segal was ruining the show.
Art was considering making Fantastic Forum his official site and dumping Keith, but they made up after that. It could have been that Keith had a contract at the time.
No one can prove Keith did that anti-Filipino post, but it's certainly something he'd be capable of.
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Post by redwolfe on Jul 28, 2008 4:49:59 GMT -5
oh - i didnt know he admitted to the email bombs - thats news to me
he also fucked up my website when art bell told him, according to keith anyway, that he had to chose - either he hosted bell's site or mine, he couldnt do both
when he transferred the files over to my new webmaster they were all corrupted - i was off line for 3 weeks and spent 1000s of dollars and 100s of hours to fix it all up - that was a deliberate sabotage on keith's part
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Post by cdh on Jul 28, 2008 12:23:28 GMT -5
Well well thanx for the info David. That is one persona I most despise. I was also a recipient of Mr Doug nuts bombs and threatened with a lawsuit. I contacted the FBI in Buffalo NY who dealt with Mr Dough nut. Because at that time I did not live in the US and had done nothing but public ally support RAMS his threats were mute.
I would think Bell was up to his neck in Keith's shenanigans. The FBI did try to prove a monetary connection between him and Bell.
Thanks David
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About Me
I'm a Geek! I admit it. I take the title of Internet Engineer. But I play with all sorts of tech.
Some of you might remember me as the webmaster for Art Bell, the late night talk show host. I ran his website up until he retired and George Noory replaced him.
This site is for all things related to my business and personal life. If you know me, you'll understand the randomness of material posted here as I have no particular theme for this site, it is just a holding place to tell anyone I know what I'm up to.
You should find some tidbits of technical information here as I feel the need to share. I may also disappear for periods of time as I am offline, traveling the country in a 40' Country Coach diesel-pusher motor home. We sold our home in Arizona and now move about the country.
The last two years Mary and I have been tagging along with Jerry Tallman (www.hiseternalplan.com), providing technical support, website maintenance and video recording and DVD sales. In the upper right corner of the site shows where we last parked and had Internet access.
Some of my regular day job projects are listed under "Client Websites". If you would like me to help you with your Internet project please contact me.
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Jul 28, 2008 14:19:16 GMT -5
The funny thing is, Keith was apparently also trying to sabotage Art, even though on the surface he appeared to be a supporter.
I can only speculate as to why, since running that site was a "cash cow" for him. He also managed Richard Hoagland's site, and quickly managed to create bad vibes there.
Keith is a fundamentalist Christian. He registed artbell.com way back in the mid-90's, when the Internet was in it's infancy. At the time, Art mostly did conservative political shows and gave airtime to many social conservatives. This was Keith's primary interest. At some point, Art viewed all the fan web sites, and liked Keith's work so much he annointed it as his official web site.
I also remember reading on line at the time in an interview with Keith, that he was no longer a fan of Art's show, since he was offended at the turn the show took when Art abandoned conservative politics for the paranormal. I wish I could find that interview posted, but at one time he did say he considered RS to be Satanic.
He continued to manage the site for money, but I think in all cases, he was trying to lure everyone in and set them up for destruction. He was an A#1 backstabber. You all know this, and while I can't say for sure, I think Art also came to that realization.
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Post by redwolfe on Jul 28, 2008 17:36:20 GMT -5
oh my - all these new revelations 10 years later.....
keith thought RS was satanic? - well thats news to me - he certainly didnt mind taking my money to run my website - in fact we had a very friendly cordial relationship until all the shit came down
and the fbi investigation? - i gather it was larger than i originally thought - i was interviewed for what i thought was an enquiry into the fillipino post - i later found out (a few months later) it was because art bell told them i was going to kill him
i spoke to the fbi later on and they told me they had cleared me of any suspicion - but what else were they investigating?
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Post by Shadout Mapes on Jul 28, 2008 18:01:10 GMT -5
Yes, M'Liege! We Are Legion Now! Even Linda Morton Howe hated him and didn't trust him at all, and wanted to get her site away from him and his powerful 386 servers! God hates him, and will send demon hourdes to feast on his and his whole famibly's souls! Jebus, I'd like to just put on a cat-woman suit with tight gloves and just beat the crap out of him and then just split open his head! Metaphoricaly speaking... heh. >< Tomasina ChicaWolverina!
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Post by Shadout Mapes on Jul 28, 2008 18:03:51 GMT -5
Right as he's dipping a donut in his styro coffee cup! >< Tomasina ChicaWolverina!
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Jul 29, 2008 12:03:36 GMT -5
David...I sure wish I woulda warned you at the time I read that article. Since it does go back quite a ways...it was pre-feud...although I didn't know that you were considering him as a webmaster. You would not have known me...I was just a fan...but I could have e-mailed you a warning if I'd known or thought of it. I already knew that even though you would have been very busy at the time that you always read your e-mail no matter how much you got. I recall e-mailing you a couple of questions and you always answered within 24 hours.
Hindsight is always 20/20, so if there was a chance for me to give you a heads-up and I didn't follow through, I'm sorry. Like I said, there was no reason for me NOT to warn you, since it was way pre-feud.
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Post by cdh on Jul 29, 2008 14:29:00 GMT -5
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Post by Shadout Mapes on Jul 31, 2008 0:07:46 GMT -5
I'll bet they secretly make donuts in the middle of the afternoon on weekdays in the bandwagon! With a good cup of black coffee, what a beautiful cup of GOOD black coffee! >< Tomasina ChicaWolverina!
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