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Post by davidlee on Oct 3, 2008 8:28:32 GMT -5
Well, it looks like the Pit Bull did just fine. Although I doubt anyone around here has the gonads to admit it! October is such a great month....the weather breaks...the leaves begin to change...Whoa did I just say change? ;D
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Oct 3, 2008 12:45:54 GMT -5
I guess if there was an objective way to determine who won, it might be to take a scratch pad and keep score on who makes the most points. I thought of doing it last night, but forgot. So, I'm going to try to do it during Tuesday's McCain/Obama debate.
But, you know the public places so many more intangibles on how they feel. The first McCain/Obama debate registered as a clear win for Obama, although I read if you keep score in the way I suggested, McCain would win. But, that doesn't take into account his angry tone, and his snickering, refusing to ever look Obama in the eye. There's no way to objectively score that.
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Post by Shadout Mapes on Oct 3, 2008 16:43:23 GMT -5
What? NON! The bitch don't fool me, I'd kill her with her own ice fisihing equipment! "Dear MoveOn member, With only 33 days to go before the election, we've got to inform the public—and especially the women Sarah Palin panders to—about where she really stands. And the truth is, on women's health issues, she's way out of the mainstream. When she was mayor of Wasilla, women who were raped literally had to pay up to $1200 out of their own pockets for the exams used to prosecute their attackers. The folks at Planned Parenthood Action Fund have put together a very strong ad that lays out these facts in a clear, emotional way. The ad's been tested by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research, a polling firm. It's very persuasive—one of the most effective ads of 2008. But Planned Parenthood Action Fund needs help getting it in front of as many folks as possible. Can you help by chipping in $25? You can watch the ad and chip in here: pol.moveon.org/donate/pp.html?id=14176-1470904-vh2W5Xx&t=4The ad doesn't just focus on Palin. It also reminds voters that John McCain's record on women's health issues is troubling, too: He voted AGAINST the Violence Against Women Act. The polling showed that when people watched it, their opinions of John McCain shifted dramatically. In the test, people were polled before and after they'd been exposed to the ad. After seeing it, they were a whopping 16 percentage points more likely to feel like McCain had poor judgment and 7 percentage points more likely to think he wasn't sensitive to the views of women. Here's what a few people in the poll said about McCain after seeing the ad: "He is against helping women with these awful unsolicited traumas and then leaves them with bills..." "He doesn't share my same values and it is wrong to charge rape victims for exams." "The fact that he has so little compassion for a woman who has been raped that he would make her pay for her exam and not allow her to have an abortion if needed." As you can see, this ad really affects people who see it. And it provides critical information about important health issues facing women and their families. Please chip in to help Planned Parenthood Action Fund get it on the air: pol.moveon.org/donate/pp.html?id=14176-1470904-vh2W5Xx&t=5Thanks for all you do. –Nita, Karin, Marika, Laura and the rest of the team" ><Tomasina ChicaWolverina!
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Oct 5, 2008 13:05:59 GMT -5
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Post by Shadout Mapes on Oct 5, 2008 13:45:02 GMT -5
I had to stay up and see SNL last night. I laughed my ass off so hard, it sort of sick though, but it was so true/funny. After that was over I had to go to sleep with my radio on, and on C2C with Ian Punnett, he's about the only time on C2C I will ever listen to, and in the first hour he was talking about the McCain/Palin campaign digging up anything they can to use against Obama etc. So he goes on about how they're dragging that thing up again about the time Obama served on some comity with one of the former Weatherundergound guys. At which point Punnett says something like "You know when a campaign is in really such deep trouble that it's finally come to the point where it has Jumped-The-Shark" ROFLOL I thought wow, that's just so exactly where they're at now. Punnett so cool. ><Tomasina ChicaWolverina!
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Post by cdh on Oct 5, 2008 15:27:42 GMT -5
Nothing matches a womens scorn.
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Oct 5, 2008 15:32:11 GMT -5
I heard that, Chica. The funny thing is, Palin is harping on that as if she's just heard it for the first time. The whole Bill Ayers thing has been examined from every angle, and everyone who cares already knows about it. The point is, most folks think it's inconsequential. Yet, it seems as if McCain is going to try to make a big deal of it on Tuesday's debate. And, if you read my idea about point-scoring, he's going to lose a lot of points if we go by my rules, since I doubt the moderator will ever ask a single question on the subject.
And, as to past associations, or even present associations, Look at Palin's links to the Alaskan Independence Party. She even addressed them this year, praising them for "all they've done for Alaska." The last time I checked, secession is illegal. If a state attempts to seceed, their government is immediately dissolved and they are put under direct Federal control (as in reconstruction), until new elections can be held.
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Oct 5, 2008 17:26:23 GMT -5
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