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Post by shewolfe on Jun 4, 2008 16:40:18 GMT -5
Before it's too late. Obama is pledging allegiance to AIPAC, the jewish lobby, et al, and promising to "eliminate the threat" of Iran, (his words) and defend Israel.
I've read tons about Obama, watched massive videos on his campaign, and Hillary, and I have to say, that Ron Paul is looking better and better to me all the time.
But, he is wiped out of the running, isn't he? People squeal and squalk that they want real change, and now Obama is winning, and Hillary is moving into position for Vice President.
Nothing is going to change...can't you feel it in the wind? I know Roland, that Ron Paul is the last person you would wish for the American people and the world, but he is the only one who doesn't act like a potential threat to other nations.
And THAT's what's getting us all in hot water.
Bring back RP before it's too late. Before Obama gets in, because it will be more of the same as Bush has done, only worse. Mark my words.
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Post by shewolfe on Jun 4, 2008 16:43:35 GMT -5
OBAMA: "THE DANGER FROM IRAN IS REAL AND MY GOAL IS TO ELIMINATE THIS THREAT."
"In his first foreign policy speech after clinching the Democratic nomination for president, Sen. Barack Obama vowed that as president he would deepen American defense cooperation with Israel. “Those who threaten Israel, threaten us. I will bring an unshakeable commitment to Israel’s security and guarantee Israel’s military strength so that it can defend itself from any threat – from Gaza to Tehran."
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Post by Shadout Mapes on Jun 4, 2008 18:22:52 GMT -5
Ron Paul wouldn't last ten days thank god! Would he? Isrial is a lamp on to nations that Islam wants to snuff out. >< Tomasina ChicaWolverina!
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Jun 5, 2008 5:16:26 GMT -5
What's wrong with pledging support to Israel? If Israel is attacked, they can probably take care of themselves, but we need to back them with our last dying breath. But, they will never be truly free until every last "Palestinian" is pushed out of the West Bank and into the Jordanian desert.
Paul is a corporate stooge.
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Jun 5, 2008 5:25:43 GMT -5
By the way...I don't know if Hillary will be selected as Obama's running mate, but I think it would be a great idea if it could work. They both have totally different demographics supporting them, and if those demographics could be brought together, they'd be unbeatable. The most important thing is the Supreme Court, and McSame simply cannot be allowed to appoint any judges. Paul supports all the same Nazi judges Bush and McSame do.
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Jun 5, 2008 12:20:43 GMT -5
By the way, Ron Paul is legally eliminated from the Republican nomination. In the Republican primary season, McCain won 1517 pledged delegates who are obligated to vote for him. It takes 1191 delegates to clinch the Republican Nomination, so it's been over for some time. Unlike the Demcrats, Republican Primaries award all their delegates in a "winner-take-all" manner, so if you carry a state by even one vote, you win all th delegates. There are a couple of small states that split the vote proportionately, so Paul won something like 4 delegates to McCain's 1517. Ron Paul is trying to position himself to at least address the convention in order to get his ideas on national TV, but he will probably be locked out. He could have continued his candidacy as a Libertarian, which is what he originally was, but elected to remain in the Republican Party. So, the Libertarians nominated Bob Barr, the villain of the Clinton Impeachment. Barr shares most of Paul's views, though, and you can see his site at www.bobbarr2008.com/Ron Paul has said he will not run as an independent. If he did he could draw a few thousand votes from Barr and McCain, but it would be mostly a joke.
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Jun 5, 2008 13:23:57 GMT -5
Here's another interesting thought: Even if Obama doesn't choose Hillary as his running-mate, he is almost certainly going to pick a woman. One name much bandied about is Janet Napolitano, the Governor of Arizona. That would greatly undercut McCain, since Obama's running mate would be from McSame's Home State.
But, the person in charge of the vetting committee to select Obama's running mate is Caroline Kennedy. What if he ended up picking her to run? She's loved, of course, but she has no political experience. It's an interesting thought, though.
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Jun 5, 2008 17:57:33 GMT -5
By the way...what on EARTH is wrong with AIPAC? I absolutely support them and I urge you to do the same. www.aipac.org/
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Post by shewolfe on Jun 5, 2008 18:38:20 GMT -5
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Post by shewolfe on Jun 5, 2008 18:45:57 GMT -5
Also, they call themselves the special "chosen people".....where does that leave the rest of us?
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Post by shewolfe on Jun 5, 2008 19:20:59 GMT -5
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Jun 6, 2008 4:47:00 GMT -5
They need to have a lot of influence. Israel is the only Democracy in the middle east, and they're outnumbered 200 to 1.
Ron Paul has even said that it was wrong to fight to free the slaves. As a corporate stooge, he would have left it all to the "free market."
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Jun 6, 2008 4:54:43 GMT -5
Well, I'm having trouble watching You Tube right now, but I'll agree on the John Hagee hate thing. The funny thing is, I don't understand why the Israelis tolerate him. He supports Israel, but only because he thinks Israel is needed in order to fulfill Revelation and bring about the Rapture. Once his idea of prophecy is fulfilled, he thinks all Jews must either accept Christ or die. Evangelicals don't respect Jews as Jews, but only support them in order to fulfill prophecy. Israel puts up with them because they bring lots of tourist dollars in. They should be banned from the country.
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Jun 6, 2008 5:08:54 GMT -5
I did just view the AIPAC speech on "Brave New Films," at bravenewfilms.org/Sadly, Barack DID say he would support creation of a Palestinian State. I would oppose this, since there already IS a Palestinian state called "Jordan."
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Post by Shadout Mapes on Jun 6, 2008 17:15:47 GMT -5
Yeah, Palestinians (so-called) have nothing to thank their Arab brethren for. I'll never forget during the first intifada the black draped Palestinian grandmother waving her fist yelling that "We will make more babies than Israel can bare against!" or saying something quite the same. It's was another perfect example of the Arab mentality to spite everyone else. These bastards are very atavistic by in nature and traditions, no one can exist side by side with them. >< Tomasina ChicaWolverina!
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Jun 6, 2008 18:25:59 GMT -5
Yeah, Palestinians (so-called) have nothing to thank their Arab brethren for. I'll never forget during the first intifada the black draped Palestinian grandmother waving her fist yelling that "We will make more babies than Israel can bare against!" or saying something quite the same. It's was another perfect example of the Arab mentality to spite everyone else. These bastards are very atavistic by in nature and traditions, no one can exist side by side with them. >< Tomasina ChicaWolverina! You're absolutely right. Everyone faults Israel for building that wall around the Palestinian territories, but have you noticed how the suicide bombings in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv have come to a screeching halt?
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Post by Shadout Mapes on Jun 7, 2008 14:30:12 GMT -5
Rico right, and anyone can see that when you have a Islamic concentration like they have so many problems with in Western cities like London, what other proof do they need to see? That article is fact and could say a lot more, apparently that's too hot for Ron Paul apologists to handle! >< Tomasina ChicaWolverina!
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